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This situation is so horrible.

2009-11-21T12:13:38.342-08:00

This situation is so horrible.

Today they charged the guy, Mario Andrette with he...

2009-11-20T12:56:20.008-08:00

Today they charged the guy, Mario Andrette with her rape and murder.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/232/story/1065631.html

I just feel sick knowing there are people out there who do this kind of thing to children.

i have chills reading your overview of this horrib...

2009-11-20T11:49:34.567-08:00

i have chills reading your overview of this horrible story. I just don't undestand how anyone can hurt a child or anyone for that matter. To hurt them so much that they kill them, ick. I'm just glad that both parties have been arrested and not still spreading their misery. Souless indeed.

I agree with Mimi...I'm all for a womans rights bu...

2009-11-19T11:24:28.080-08:00

I agree with Mimi...I'm all for a womans rights but I don't see any reason why the mother should NOT be sterilized....yeah she might turn her life around 10 years from now and want to start a fresh and have kids but you know what...you should have thought about that years ago.

Nick's comment hit me to the core:And human beings...

2009-11-19T11:23:32.036-08:00

Nick's comment hit me to the core:And human beings like to think they're better than animals. So when did you last hear of an animal prostituting their young? Funny, nothing comes to mind.

I had to scroll through your post quickly as the i...

2009-11-19T11:14:39.191-08:00

I had to scroll through your post quickly as the image of her being held waiting on the elevator brings me to tears every SINGLE TIME....she even looks content, happy, not crying in that video and to think she had no idea of her fait at that moment makes me heart hurt, weep and makes my cry...I'm at work trying to type this and tears are rolling down my eyes...there are no words for this at all...just no words.

And what pains me even more is that she was with her mother since mid October not even a month....the poor father will feel guilty the rest of his life for letting her go....

Mimi, It seems like getting any info out of the pe...

2009-11-18T08:52:47.909-08:00

Mimi,
It seems like getting any info out of the perpetrators is a problem. Too bad torture is off the table.

Ugh, this is exactly why I think "mothers"(ha) lik...

2009-11-18T08:44:13.390-08:00

Ugh, this is exactly why I think "mothers"(ha) like this should be sterilized...how do people sleep at night?

I'm opposed to torture but this just might be an exception.

Anonymous, "His killer was released from prison af...

2009-11-18T00:02:28.528-08:00

Anonymous,
"His killer was released from prison after only serving 11 years for the brutal killing of a young child. Jashon’s young mother was also killed by this man, who apparently the system felt he was stable enough to return to humanity."

What in the world??? That's just sick.

Tracy,
I don't believe they can rehabilitate either. I could be wrong but I don't. They just repeat their actions over and over again.

I don't understand how a person could murder a chi...

2009-11-17T15:07:08.787-08:00

I don't understand how a person could murder a child and then be out of jail after 11 years!! When you commit a heinous crime like that, you should be locked up for life. Period! Why do we as a society think that these monsters can be rehabilitated. It's like the system treats a child rapist/murderer like they robbed a convenience store or something.

That guy who kidnapped Jaycee Dugagard had brutally raped a woman and a mere 3 years after serving just 11 years of a 50 year sentence, he kidnapped Jaycee and we all know the rest of the story. This stuff happens over and over again. Every time a tragic story like this happens, the suspect is always some sex offender who just got out of prison. It's amazing. How many more children have to die before we realize that these monsters don't deserve a second chance! You can't rehabilitate or get rid of a sickos lust for children!

The faces of these beautiful little angels will fo...

2009-11-17T14:54:00.126-08:00

The faces of these beautiful little angels will forever be embedded in my mind. Let us please also pray for young Jashon Williams who at just 17 months old his fragile body was recently found washed up in a Marina in Berkeley, CA. His killer was released from prison after only serving 11 years for the brutal killing of a young child. Jashon’s young mother was also killed by this man, who apparently the system felt he was stable enough to return to humanity.

Jashon with your beautiful blue eyes and Cherub cheeks, I am so sorry we couldn’t do more to protect you.

Anonymous, Looking at the mug shot of the man hold...

2009-11-17T12:48:35.230-08:00

Anonymous,
Looking at the mug shot of the man holding her, it makes my skin crawl. What an evil person to do whatever he did or play whatever role he played in the murder of that child.

Claudia, It's horrible to think that this kind of ...

2009-11-17T12:44:23.665-08:00

Claudia,
It's horrible to think that this kind of thing is common. Last night I thought about this in light of the convo I overheard last week w/ the two women who said stuff like the movie Precious doesn't really happen. It happens & it can be worse than we can imagine.

Marcela,
On a micro level I am still thinking about drugs being a driving force behind this. Or maybe people just are so broke they really will do anything for money.

Ian,
That photo chilled me to the core. As far as I know, no one has yet been charged with Shaniya's murder, but when they are, I've read that the death penalty can be applied in to this.

Cassie,
Ugh, I know it's happened before. I think I just block out the other stories of moms selling their daughters as prostitutes here in the States.

Phi Sister,
I agree that the punishments for these kinds of crimes need to become MUCH harsher. I'm supposed to foot the bill for three meals for child predators/murderers to live in prison? No ma'am. Not down with that.

Brittany,
I keep thinking about what her life must've been like in the few days before her death. Was she being abused? Was she completely oblivious to what was going to happen? She is so clearly in a better place. Goodness.

Angela,
The stats/info on that site are so disheartening. People have no boundaries nowadays. None whatsoever. And yes, we can somewhat understand this is the mom is mentally ill and on drugs. Not fully, but somewhat. And if she's not, the plain evil thing is

Jameil,
Oh gosh, how do you even cover that? That's horrible.

Boca Flaca,
When I saw the trailer the family lived in, I said to myself there's no way I would ever let any of my kids step foot in there. I just don't get why he did it either.

Tracy,
I was a kid when the Atlanta Child Murders happened and it put such a paranoia in me. I don't think my sons will ever walk down the street alone till they're adults. But this isn't even strangers. It's her MOM. Makes it so much worse.

I Am Not Star Jones,
I don't know. I read an interview with the dad's sister & I guess she was the one who sent Shaniya off w/ the mom b/c the dad was out of town for work and wasn't even in town when Shaniya 1st went missing. That father's whole family has GOT to be a wreck right now.

Yvonne,
Calmness or fear. Apparently the parents never had official custody hearing so the mom was always in picture, but not as consistently b/c she didn't have life together.

Nick,
Questionable application of death penalty for sure, and knowing how it disproportionately impacts black men... but still, we house plenty of people in prisons who've committed heinous murders/rapes and we have full proof they've done it. I don't think that's right.

NYC/CR,
Apparently he was out of town for work and his sister let Shaniya go with her mom. Read about it here.

Tracy,
Check out that link I posted in my reply to NYC/CR. Apparently the mom was a part of Shaniya's life even though the girl didn't live with her. But I do think more needs to come out on this story. It just makes no sense.

Sundry,
Yes it is. :(

Nerd Girl,
Yes, she looks very trusting, very much like all of our children look - and I think we're all picturing our own children being murdered, even if we ourselves would not be the ones giving them up to these psycho pedophiles.

I can't help but look at the picture of her being ...

2009-11-17T12:36:39.643-08:00

I can't help but look at the picture of her being held while waiting for the elevator. She appears to be clutching his should as though he is her protector. The notion is just to unbearable to comprehend. Who will protect these children when their minds are not mature enough to fully understand what is happening to them is wrong? Do we really want people like this living amongst us? I am for the death penalty of all those involved. I pray that her other children are placed in a proper home and that this Beautiful Angel did not die in vain.

This is such an atrocious crime. One of my daught...

2009-11-17T08:48:51.500-08:00

This is such an atrocious crime. One of my daughter's is 5 yrs old so this really made me cringe. I recently had a conversation with an atty who formerly prosecuted child molesters and who was normally against the death penalty, but in the case of child molesters was totally for it because studies show they have the highest rate of recidivism.

As for the father, how could he let his child go with this woman given her track record? If she wanted another chance why not start with a few hours of supervised visits instead of handing her over to this woman she barely knew for three weeks?!?!

I pray that Shaniya rests in peace and that she receives justice.

I weep when I see that picture. Every time. Shan...

2009-11-17T07:59:04.687-08:00

I weep when I see that picture. Every time. Shaniya looks so trusting and peaceful - my mind will not allow me to imagine the horrors she experienced. I pray for them all.

Truly gutwrenching.

2009-11-17T07:29:04.488-08:00

Truly gutwrenching.

nyc/caribbean, I hate to say it, but I feel there...

2009-11-17T07:04:47.263-08:00

nyc/caribbean,

I hate to say it, but I feel there is something more going on here as well. This "mother" was never a part of this child's life and now it's come out that she drugs were found in her home and there is also a record of child abuse of other children in the home, yet the father allows her to stay with the mother for three weeks cause she wanted another chance? Are you kidding me?

Something just does not sound right. I can't believe he would be that terribly naive.

Poor child. That picture of her at the elevator i...

2009-11-17T02:22:51.995-08:00

Poor child. That picture of her at the elevator is beyond upsetting.

Why did the father leave her alone with her unstable mom for three weeks? Why was nobody checking in on her? I feel there is more to this story.

And human beings like to think they're better than...

2009-11-17T00:41:15.590-08:00

And human beings like to think they're better than animals. So when did you last hear of an animal prostituting their young? Funny, nothing comes to mind.

I can understand people's fierce feelings about cases like this but I've always opposed the death penalty, mainly because of the many infamous cases of innocent people being put to death.

Life imprisonment is punishment enough with the complete denial of personal freedom and any kind of normal life. And if they wish to commit suicide in jail, that's their decision.

Horrible. Horrible. Horrible. I can't get the imag...

2009-11-16T22:08:22.667-08:00

Horrible. Horrible. Horrible. I can't get the image of the man holding the little girl at the elevator out of my head. She looks so calm.
Why would the father give that woman his child when she'd been out of the picture for so long? It's so sad.

"She had asked if she could be a mother, and I fel...

2009-11-16T21:36:18.397-08:00

"She had asked if she could be a mother, and I felt that she was sincere in asking and I figured to give her a chance."

How is the father going to live with himself knowing that he delivered his child to her death?

This whole tragedy just broke my heart. My heart b...

2009-11-16T20:48:57.100-08:00

This whole tragedy just broke my heart. My heart breaks every time I hear stories like this and I never forget the names of these babies. The picture of her in that monsters arms in the hotel churns my stomach. Her body was dumped in the woods like she was garbage. It just leaves me enraged and so heartbroken. It makes me afraid to ever bring a child into this world.

And in this instance, I to am pro-death penalty. People who rape or commit heinous crimes against children and the elderly and the mentally challenged don't deserve to live.

i live in NC and have been overcome with waves of ...

2009-11-16T19:29:44.211-08:00

i live in NC and have been overcome with waves of rage off and on all day. I called a friend and told her i felt lost, because i am actually hoping for the painful death of this man and this woman.

and frankly, i am angry with the father for giving his child over to this animal because she wanted a "chance:...to sell her child to a monster.

i don't know what to do with this anger and sadness. it feels like a weight i can feel on my arms, legs, chest.

I was heartbroken when I saw she was found dead. ...

2009-11-16T19:03:14.518-08:00

I was heartbroken when I saw she was found dead. There was a little girl whose father left her to die in below 0 temperatures in Pittsburgh. Footsteps showed she toddled in the snow trying to get out of the woods before she died. She was missing for at least 15 hours. I HATED covering that story.